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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 20, 2009 6:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Non Dead: Larry Bird and Bill Walton Post 1986 Championship

From a Dan Shaughnessy article in today's Globe about the Bird/Magic Johnson book:

MacMullan got Bird to admit for the first time that: 1. He’d never seen an escalator until 1978 when he walked into the Indianapolis Hyatt to talk to the Pacers after his junior season at Indiana State; 2. His mom was a big fan of Bill Laimbeer, whom Larry hated; 3. After the Celtics won the 1986 championship, Walton sat alone in Bird’s kitchen drinking Wild Turkey until after the sun came up.
I told Bird I didn’t believe the Walton story. Simply too good to be true.
“Yeah, it happened,’’ he said. “After we won, me and Dinah went out to K.C. Jones’s restaurant. He had a rib place. I had two beers. Remember how we stopped drinking that year?’’ - the ’86 Celtics swore off alcohol for their playoff run - “Well, I had two beers and they didn’t even taste good. I was tired, anyway, so I went home an hour later.
“Bill came over. It was late. Doorbell rang and Dinah answered and she was like, ‘Hey, Bill. Larry’s in bed.’ I heard him, so I go out and I said, ‘Hey, man I ain’t doing this tonight. I can’t.’ He goes, ‘Don’t worry about it. I don’t even need you. I’m just going to sit down here at the table.’ He had a bottle of whiskey. And he said, ‘I’ll be here when you wake up.’ And he was.

I wonder if Bill was humming Truckin' as he pounded the Turkey? (just realized how wrong that sounds...but I'm leaving it in anyway)

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2009-11-20 14:56:08

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Nov 20, 2009 9:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non Dead: Larry Bird and Bill Walton Post 1986 Championship

SDH,

does Dan or the book reference the myth/story that the Celtics purposely lost game 5 in Houston so they could come home in win the championship?

I would love to know if that is actually true

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 20, 2009 9:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non Dead: Larry Bird and Bill Walton Post 1986 Championship

If it happened, no one's gonna admit it.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 20, 2009 6:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non Dead: Larry Bird and Bill Walton Post 1986 Championship

Now with that visual of Bill and the turkey in my head I am going to have to sit down to a Thanksgiving meal with family and friends next week and not want to scream? Thanks. Perhaps I stick with the ham.

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Poster: SeaKlock Date: Nov 20, 2009 7:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non Dead: Larry Bird and Bill Walton Post 1986 Championship

I remember Larry hanging at the El Rancho pool during a Cal-Expo run. I still laugh when visualizing him on 5 1/2 foot chase-lounge.

Kings Suck, maybe Duane Embry can send some players west to dress up the Warriors.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Nov 20, 2009 8:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: ESPN Getting Tired of Walton Grateful Dead References

ESPN Getting Tired of Walton Grateful Dead References


Bristol, CT -- In a confidential memo leaked to the press Tuesday morning, executives at ESPN expressed growing concern about incessant references to legendary counterculture rock band, the Grateful Dead, made by NBA analyst and lifelong "Deadhead," Bill Walton.

"If we could all make an effort to help Bill reduce the number of references to Grateful Dead lyrics, concerts he's attended, and past and present band members throughout an average broadcast," the memo said, "it would go a long way toward bringing more viewers to Fridays [ESPN's Friday Night NBA coverage]."

"Seriously, I’m not kidding here," the memo continued, "it’s got to stop. Before we all gouge our own eyes out with sporks."


While the memo is believed to have been sent by ESPN executive vice president of programming/production, Mark Shapiro, anti-Walton-Dead-reference sentiment has been growing company-wide since ESPN began covering NBA games this season.

"If he tells me one more time how he did mescaline with Mama Cass and David Crosby backstage at the Greek Theater, Berkeley, ’71, I’m gong to smack him," said Walton’s broadcast partner, Mike Tirico. "And that’s exactly how he always says it, too: ‘Greek Theater…Berkeley….seventy-one…,’ and then he starts grinning and grooving to some Dead music in his head, going, ‘Yeaaaah, man….yeaaaah’ like a total stoner."

"The guy’s, what, fifty-one?" Tirico added. "Hey Bill, the ‘Summer of Love’ ended thirty-three years ago. Time to move on, pal."

Shapiro’s memo also indicated that Walton’s references to songs, concerts, people and events from more than three decades ago is not helping ESPN’s NBA Friday night ratings.

"We’re targeting a younger demographic," Shapiro’s memo said, "so if you could all please remind Bill that today’s 18- to 24-year-old viewer simply does not care that it’s the 13th anniversary of [Grateful Dead keyboardist] Brent Mydland’s death. They don’t care who Ron ‘Pigen’ McKernan was, and don’t understand why Bill is comparing Pigpen’s leadership abilities in the Dead’s formative Haight-Ashbury years to Jason Kidd’s ability to run the Nets offense."

"No wonder we’re losing Friday viewers to ‘John Doe.’ Why? Because ‘John Doe’ doesn’t have some sad, aging, hippie freakster spewing Robert Hunter lyrics every three seconds."

While ESPN management had been initially lenient with the random Grateful Dead trivia, facts, and anecdotes that Walton began injecting into broadcasts for no apparent reason, insiders believe that it was the recent Bulls-Wizards matchup–which featured Michael Jordan’s last appearance in Chicago–that was the last straw for Shapiro.

Toward the end of the game, Walton managed to shoehorn approximately 168 Grateful Dead mentions into a seemingly endless monologue.

"While these great Chicago fans hope to see Michael ‘One More Saturday Night’ perhaps in the playoffs, he’s beginning to show a ‘Touch of Grey’ in his hair, and while I’ve always believed that Michael must be a ‘Friend of the Devil’ to have had such a wonderful career, and he still plays with the aggression of a ‘Wharf Rat,’ his ‘Unbroken Chain’ of success must come to an end. But his legacy will ‘Not Fade Away’ even as he disappears down the ‘Golden Road.’ For us fans, there’s ‘nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile.’"

Tape of the broadcast then shows a visibly confused Tirico about to open his mouth to speak, but being immediately cut off by the former UCLA, Portland Trailblazers and Boston Celtics star.

"This is horrrrrible, Mike, just horrrrible," Walton nearly screamed. "I fear the NBA will go to ‘Hell in a Bucket’ without Michael, and the ‘Eyes of the World’ will be upon the next generation of NBA superstars, and David Stern is clearly saying ‘I Need a Miracle’ to the Kobes, the Garnetts, the McGradys, even the Lebron Jameses of the world, hoping that MJ’s retirement doesn’t lead to a serious case of the ‘U.S. Blues’ for NBA fans."

Walton then made a tangental reference to Michael’s wife "Althea," and three children–"Bertha," "Casey Jones," and "Tennessee Jed"–all of whom, he claimed, were in the United Center that evening. When Tirico informed Walton that Jordan’s wife is, in fact, named Juanita and his children are Jeffrey, Marcus and Jasmine, Walton paused.

"Hey now, Mike," Walton said, "hey now, Aiko Aiko all day, jockomo feeno na na nay, jockomo feena nay. Hey now––"

It was then that ESPN producers abruptly cut to an emergency broadcast system test pattern, then back to ESPN studio analysts, David Aldridge and Dr. Jack Ramsey.

"Well, I…." Aldridge said, awkwardly shuffling papers and clearing his throat.

"Did Bill just say that Michael Jordan’s son is named ‘Tennessee…Jed,’" Ramsey asked.

While Shapiro is clearly concerned about the effect Walton’s Grateful Dead over-referencing will have on the success of ESPN’s Friday night NBA coverage, he admitted in a later interview that it could be worse.

"At least he’s not mixing in John Wooden stuff, too. I mean, can you imagine if he combined all that Jerry Garcia bullshit with his incessant Wooden motivational quotes? Christ Almighty."

Shapiro then shuddered.

http://www.thesportsrag.com/008_Bill_Walton.html

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2009 11:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ESPN Getting Tired of Walton Grateful Dead References

That is great stuff! And so true...but now with his back issues, he's not around much...

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Nov 21, 2009 1:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ESPN Getting Tired of Walton Grateful Dead References

I saw this several years ago and sent it to a certain NBA hall of famer. He thought that Walton was going overboard too. The old redhead could have been, if the ESPN managment only knew what that "Iko" French Creole verse means. It translates roughly to "fuck the big boss man and shove this job up your ass" according to Mickey Hart.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 20, 2009 8:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non Dead: Larry Bird and Bill Walton Post 1986 Championship

Hilarious story, man. Walton was probably dosed to the gills. Yeah, man, I'll still be here when you wake up.

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Poster: SeaKlock Date: Nov 20, 2009 10:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non Dead: Larry Bird and Bill Walton Post 1986 Championship

Guess ya had to be there.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1986-05-03.sbd.miller.81516.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1986-05-04.sbd.miller.81603.flac16

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